Iam so tired of this homosexualists screeming, so far here I’am placing the text for them to keep in their memories.
The Bible’s condemnation of homosexuality is as clear and plain as the Bible’s condemnation of murder, adultery, premarital sex, kidnapping, lying and idolatry. Further, for me to openly condemn homosexuality theologically makes me no more a “gay basher” than I am an “adultery basher”, “premarital sex basher”, “kidnapper basher” or a “murderer basher”. If you disagree, your argument is with God’s Bible.
The homosexual community has two ways of promoting their personal choices of being homosexual through the religious forum. First, some will claim the Bible actually promotes and condones homosexuality. Second, others try to get the Bible banned from public use by categorizing it as hate literature.
For any to use the Bible to condone rather than condemn homosexual activity in the theological arena just proves such a one has absolutely no idea what the Bible actually teaches. For anyone to suggest the Bible says homosexual activity is acceptable to God, is nothing short of willful blindness. So to set the record straight once and for all, here is what the Bible teaches on the subject.
Anyone who has heard of the cities of “Sodom and Gommorah” knows that they were notorious hotbeds of homosexuality. Gen 19:5-8 “and they called to Lot and said to him, ‘Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.’ But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, ‘Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly.'” The Greek word in the New Testament for homosexuality is literally “a sodomite”. Jock is trying to redefine what the term “sodomite” means. (A term that has unchanged in 5000 years, even today- “sodomy”) Apart from the fact the city was clearly destroyed by God because of homosexuality in the narrative of Gen 19, even the New Testament clearly states exactly the same thing in Jude 7 “Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.” Any sinner should always remember that the God who commands us to love our neighbour is the same God who will cast any and all unrepentant sinners into the “eternal fire”. Here are more Bible quotes, Lev 18:22-23 “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.” Lev 20:13 “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.” 1 Cor 6:9 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals” 1 Tim 1:9-10 “realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers” Rom 1:26-27 “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.”
If the homosexual community chooses to practice homosexuality in privacy, that is there free choice. But let such persons know for certain that the Christian Bible condemns all such practices and God will judge them unfit for the kingdom of heaven if the continue to practice and openly promote homosexual sex.
Seven Things I Wish
Pro-Gay People Would Admit
by Bob Davies
1. I wish they would admit that many people are not happy with their homosexuality or lesbianism, and that this conflict is internal, based on legitimate, intelligent religious and moral convictions–not just the result of a so-called “homophobic” society which is forcing guilt upon people who don’t conform to a heterosexual ethic.
Stop throwing out the cheap, inaccurate labels like “internalized homophobia” to explain our motivations.
2. I wish they would acknowledge that homosexuals and lesbians can experience significant change in their sexual feelings and desires, even though they may never be totally heterosexual in their sexual thoughts and feelings.
Be honest enough to admit that such change is significant and genuine, even if it isn’t complete.
3. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have found a greater measure of peace and satisfaction after leaving a gay or lesbian lifestyle than they ever experienced while embracing homosexuality.
Not all “ex-gays” are miserable, plotting how to secretly fulfill their homosexual lusts without being caught.
4. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have genuine joy in their marriages.
Most former gays and lesbians don’t get married in a futile attempt to “escape” homosexuality; they marry as a natural consequence of resolving that issue in their lives.
5. I wish they would acknowledge that all people have as much right to pursue a heterosexual lifestyle as they do to pursue homosexuality.
Former homosexuals and lesbians should not be harassed and castigated by the gay community. But I have never heard any gay or lesbian leaders speak out against the violence (such as bomb threats and physical/verbal abuse) which some people perpetuate against Exodus ministries.
6. I wish they would stop equating our decision to leave homosexuality with “hatred” and “bigotry” against gays and lesbians.
We don’t hate gays; we simply desire to live free of homosexuality. Don’t put nasty labels upon our motives. That’s being judgmental and unfair.
7. I wish pro-gay religious leaders would admit that their endorsement and promotion of monogamous homosexual relationships is a facade.
Many–probably most–men and women involved in long-term partnerships are not sexually monogamous, but gay churches don’t discipline members for committing “adultery” outside their “gay marriage.” Neither do they discipline gays or lesbians who have sex before entering into a “holy union” with their partner.
Bob Davies is past President of Exodus International and an ex-gay himself. He has been married for nine years.
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1.The example of David and Jonathan shows that there were some homosexual practices.
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2.Sodom and Gomorrah’s story’s about a gang of MSMs (Men having Sex with other Men) that tried to rape other men, it has nothing to do with moral gays. And they were promoting xenophobia as well by threatening to lot.
2.2 One thing is to condemn immoral MSMs and gays (as well as heterosexuals and bisexuals), and another thing is to condemn gays that do not promote homosexuality, nor intend to harm someone. Bible does the first, but how sure you are it does the second one?
3. Leviticus was written for Levites, ages ago. Are you a Levite. Do you obey all the Levitical Godly Laws, like Leviticus 25:44-46, or lots of other stuff? Will you stone people only because the Bible says so?
4. “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.” Well, a man shall lie with a man like a man, not like a woman. That’s it.
And where are the 10 Commandments? “Thou shalt not kill?”
Rom 1:26-27 LOL, please, do you really believe God is sending sexual perversions on men? It reminds me of Venus that was doing the same, that’s why the diseases sent by her were called venereal diseases. So, is this Christianity or Pagan faith transformed into it?
That’s so generous you will not chase anymore (cause you don’t have the authority anymore, fortunately) gays that live together happily, in a union. Nevertheless, the isolation will bring ignorance, xenophobia, and that’s why gays shall not be silenced, nor isolated.
To Bob Davies:
1 I wish they would admit that many people are not happy with their homosexuality or lesbianism, and that this conflict is internal, based on legitimate, intelligent religious and moral convictions–not just the result of a so-called “homophobic” society which is forcing guilt upon people who don’t conform to a heterosexual ethic.
Stop throwing out the cheap, inaccurate labels like “internalized homophobia” to explain our motivations.
NOT THAT TRUE
1 The religious and moral convictions he speaks about are nothing more than the input of the society into the man; an innocent child will be happy with his sexual orientation, knowing nothing about weather it’s homo or heterosexual, and only the moral stuff given by others will bring the contradictions, therefore, it’s more than coming from homophobic people.
2. I wish they would acknowledge that homosexuals and lesbians can experience significant change in their sexual feelings and desires, even though they may never be totally heterosexual in their sexual thoughts and feelings.
Be honest enough to admit that such change is significant and genuine, even if it isn’t complete.
TRUE, BUT WHAT ABOUT…
In the same way, a heterosexual may experience significant change in their sexual feelings and desires, even though they may never be totally homosexual in their sexual thoughts and feelings.
Be honest enough to admit that such change is significant and genuine, even if it isn’t complete.
AND not to mention the harm it brings, and the inhumane methods like electroshock, lobotomia, disgusting stuff, antinatural trials…
3 3. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have found a greater measure of peace and satisfaction after leaving a gay or lesbian lifestyle than they ever experienced while embracing homosexuality.
Not all “ex-gays” are miserable, plotting how to secretly fulfill their homosexual lusts without being caught.
I wish you would acknowledge that many homosexuals did not get what they wanted, some even committed suicide after all that stuff.
Not all ex-gays are happy and satisfied with the results, there even exist an “ex-ex-gay” movement that tells lots of thing about “ex-gays”.
And recently there have been some really scandalous stories on how latent gays were publicly against homosexuality and gay marriages, but were caught in… you’d probably call it either “adultery” or “sodomy”, or both.
5. I wish they would acknowledge that all people have as much right to pursue a heterosexual lifestyle as they do to pursue homosexuality.
Former homosexuals and lesbians should not be harassed and castigated by the gay community. But I have never heard any gay or lesbian leaders speak out against the violence (such as bomb threats and physical/verbal abuse) which some people perpetuate against Exodus ministries.
AGREE PARTIALLY, ON THE SECOND PART, BUT…
In the same manner, all people have as much right to pursue a homosexual lifestyle as they do to pursue heterosexuality, in that case.
And compared to homophobia, the phenomena he tells about, is more rare that homophobia.
6. Agree, nevertheless, if you were not taught homosexuality’s bad, if there was no intolerance towards LGBT people, would you go against your nature? I doubt.
7. I wish pro-gay religious leaders would admit that their endorsement and promotion of monogamous homosexual relationships is a facade.
WELL, THE SAME FOR MANY HETEROSEXUALS. Wouldn’t you agree? And especially for some ex-gays that are found in relationship with other men.
Bob Davies is past President of Exodus International and an ex-gay himself.
This sentence is killing: the same for someone to read on Armenia and at the end of the article, here it is:
Badal Badalyan, an ex-Armenian. LOL
Or on religious stuff, you read on Hinduism and at the end you find:
Krishna Vidjrakrashi, an ex-Hinduist. LOL
How this info may be liable if given by someone who’s against it. His mind and views are surely biased.